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Title : Doctor Who's Disastrous Christmas Special
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This episode rates a 7.6 on IMDB, its a pretty weak score for that period but the same score as runaway bride, so where are you getting the 'disaster' part of this episode its within average for them? It was also the most watched episode of all the first 4 seasons by a long long way.....
Also stop claiming season 3 was so successful season 4 was the super successful won that got this so many viewers. Viewership was lower than season 1 or 2 and it jumped to its highest for season 4 so it was the least watched. Ratings wise it performs on a par with the other seasons in that era with certain episodes trashing the overall score and others pulling it back up. It has the worst rated finale by a long way.
I can tell season 3 was you went from being a kid you didn't really understand the show to being a legit fan aswell as it seems like you have a crush on Martha.
Put these things aside if you want to be an objective viewer, the facts don't fit your rose tinted narrative.
I did the maths from David Tennant saying that 50 million credits is 1 million pounds, and the Banoffs (forgot their name) saying that they won't financially recover from spending 5000 credits to get tickets via a quiz. They spent a whopping...
£100. Not a lot at all.
Hey. I'm re-watching random episodes and sort of watching your reviews alongside. You're review of gridlock really helped me see it in a new way and it definitely went up in my ranking!
But I definitely think you're a bit harsh with this one 😂 I loved all of the RTD Christmas specials and the speech from Tennant is one of the most memorable moments in Who history imo. I think you're right about the pacing (longer Who episodes always seem to struggle I think) and Capricorn (who I just dislike as a chanacter. But its Christmas! It's meant to be OTT and have a more hopeful outlook 😂 and I really like Kylie and Russell Tovey (who plays Alonso)
Keep up the great vids!
I'm sorry, but this is my favourite Christmas special of all time. It's hardly groundbreaking, but it's just so much fun, the stakes are constantly high and the story is surprisingly emotional towards the end. Plus, the pacing is fantastic, keeping the plot going quickly and efficiently, preventing it from dragging like it does in quite a few Christmas specials. My RTD era nostalgia might play a role in this, but I genuinely think this episode is a brilliant piece of entertainment. It's become a staple of my Christmas viewing.
I completely agree with almost all your praise and misgivings of this episode. The one thing I disagree with is I feel it's perhaps the best Christmas Episode.
The reason I think it's the best is a Christmas offering by the Doctor needs to appeal to a completely different audience from the regular series. It needs to be big and spectacular to get eyes to watch. (Check) Best to have a self contained story that non fans can get involved without having to have watched the show before. (Check) Needs to wrap up the story in the run time. (Check) Star casting, extra points to cover many generations of viewers. (Check)
Again average story but perfect Christmas faire. Also can be forgotten because it doesn't do damage to the series as a whole.
I like when Doctor Who pulls from existing movies or movie genres and gives them their own Doctor Who twist like this episode clearly pulls from The Poseidon Adventure and classic style disaster movies and how previous stories have pulled from Base Under Siege stories and Horror style movies and you could even say detective drama with Blink. Even period style dramas as well. It shows that the writers all have a wide knowledge and a big appreciation for pop culture. I like that a lot.
I love the description of Christmas it's my favourite scene 😂. Since English isn't my first language I would totally understand the confusion about boxing day and eating turkey 😂. I mean Americans celebrate a holiday about killing natives and eating the people from Turkey so why shouldn't Brits get in trouble for celebrating boxing on Christmas and also eating people 🎄. You guys just refuse to celebrate important things. In Austria the 26th is St Stephanie a day. Since I'm called Stephanie I feel like everyone should have that day, boxing is brutal I'm quite nice 😇
I agree that this one was an interesting idea that suffered in its execution. RTD admitted that the problem was that he turned in the final draft so late that the effects department did not have time to execute its shots properly.
I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of Foon's grief being a set-up for the Doctor's grief over Astrid. But also remember that this episode immediately follows The Last of the Time Lords. The Doctor had just lost--again--the last of his race, his former best friend, and his impotence in the face of the Master's refusal to regenerate was still fresh. So his anger and determination to save Astrid ("I can do anything!") is partly due to this recent loss.
Very much enjoying these videos!
this is a clear case of British colonial nostalgia and nationaliSM!! I am BLOODY FUUUMING how can you say ANYTHING about Australia?!!! I'll have you know that Australia is the GREATEST country ON EARTh!!! Without Australia you wouldn't have CLASSIC artists like flite of the concoards! Britain needs Australia!! So much you even took our OWN PM TONY ABBOTT TO HELP YOU WITH CREATING BREXIT!! YOU ARE A RACIST MY GOOD SIR, A RACIST!!!
Voyage of the Damned was foreshadowed in The Invasion of Time and Rose. In The Invasion of Time, Borusa is seen reading a old newspaper about the Titanic disaster which The 4th Doctor claimed he had nothing to do with it and in Rose, Rose and Clive discover a photo of The Daniels Family and that The 9th Doctor stopped them from going on the Titanic.
there aint' nothin' wrong with sounding Australian mate!
I thought it was a great episode
i'm surprised you didn't like Kylie in this episode, I always thought she did great, and was sad she didn't stay on as a companion
Maybe it's just because I'm Australia and used to the accent, but I thought she delivered her lines very well..
Wait what do you mean Americans being excited about roundabouts in Europe, y’all don’t have roundabouts?? I’m so confused.
Anyway, The Voyage of the damned is my favourite Christmas special out of all of them, I really enjoy it even despite its flaws and I’m still sad that Astrid didn’t end up as a companion. I watch it every year. Well, I watch a bunch of Christmas specials every year but this one is always first in the line:D
That whole insurance fraud scheme could be a throwaway reference to a conspiracy theory about the RMS Titanic disaster. The theory is as follows: “the White Star Line wanted to sink the Olympic to avoid having to do a massive overhaul after her collision with a Royal Navy ship. The damage was enough to bend the keel of the Olympic, causing her to have a permanent lean to one side unless they completely overhaul the ship. But this would be way too costly, and the company was already in financial trouble as is.” This much is true. But according to the theory, “they repaired the hole, as much of the list as possible, and renamed the ship to Titanic. The rest is history.” This theory doesn’t hold much water, pun not intended, but it’s nice to see a reference like that in the show.
Also, who else sees flight decks when they look at the engines on the outside of the ship?