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Title : A History Teacher Reacts | Extra Credits - Genghis Khan (Parts 1-2)
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I read that he killed his half brother because they were half starving and the half brother kept stealing the food for himself and not sharing any spoils. In either case, loyalty was very important to Chinggis Khaan. It may not be relatable but in the steppe life it’s a matter of survival. 🇲🇳
Usually, when we are dealing with illiterate tribes, the stories are past down orally for generations and often embellished.
You see the same thing with the story of Muhammed that was only written down 400 years later after scribes were commissioned to write down the stories past down from the tribes.
The part when Temujin snapped and decided that his older brother had to die is an early example of what happens when either a single parent (or both parents) doesn’t address the abuse of bullying that goes beyond the idea of sibling rivalry (or innocent things in that nature), how fast the bullied can snap and decide to put an end to the matter in the wrong way. We’ve seen it recently as a recurring problem where the kid gets bullied to the point where a school shooting or suicide occurs. Especially if the kid or teenager either doesn’t want to speak out or doesn’t feel like speaking out fixes anything. No amount of gun control policies will stop a young and smart child from figuring out a way around these issues. Just something I thought about when learning about this
My great GREAT GREAT grandmother was kidnapped here in Brazil. She was from an indigenous tribe and the man who abducted her was of a Portuguese background, kind of a raider. They lived together for a while until her father found out where they were and sent a message threatening to go and get them (he was the tribe leader). She and her husband left the kids and fled to somewhere else after telling them that if they didn't come back, the worse had happened. They never came back.
What I heard about the older brother was that he not only stole the fish and the bird, the thing that really pissed him off was that he ate it himself without sharing it with the rest of the family or the mother.
So it wasn't even to "claim the fame" and seem like he was provider of their flock, it was to feed himself, so he could stay strong, while the rest of the family starved. Djengis wanted to share it with his mother and brothers, and could not tolerate the selfishness of his older brother, that is why he killed him.
*Alternative history scenario, king of an undisclosed country talking to his advisor*
- why do the Mongols have bombards? Arent they horse-people?
- they mustve stolen them from the Byzantines, Sire.
K: where did they get the catapults from, then?
A: most likely from the Venetians, Sire.
K: what about their heavy infantry?
A: Germany, maybe?
K: and what of those elaborate siege towers?
A: ah, those must be French, Sire.
K: then what do we have that can beat them?
A: the English Channel...
His men did write a book about GK and his life called The Secret History of the Mongols just shortly after his death I believe. Some of these stories I’ve heard slightly differently so I don’t know if it’s just translation differences from the same source or if there were different sources.
I had heard he killed his brother for stealing food that was supposed to feed the family. This story does make it seem more trivial with his mother’s response to it and I wonder how people found out to arrest him. It’s kind of isolated areas lol
Super nit-picky comment on the Extra History video: Why does it seem like when Tamujin had to flee, he and his people left their yurts behind? The coverings and frames would have been incredibly valuable resources for survival -- close to food and water -- and very difficult/time consuming to replace. Probably an oversight on their part, but a pretty important one.
I'm sorry, I don't wanna bash the guy or anything... But watching his videos doesn't give me the feeling of "History teachers reacts"... More like, "some guy who knows a little bit of history reacts to videos, mainly just nodding his head and stating the obvious."
He hardly ever adds anything that the video doesn't already state and if it wasn't for the title, I'd have no bloody idea that the guy was a history teacher.
One thing you, Mr. Terry, could add is temporal context. As I understand it, Genghis Khan ruled early in the 13th century; what else was going on then? Henry II had just murdered Thomas Bgneckett; Richard I then Henry III ruled England. Phillip the 4th ruled France. Europe was on its 4th and 5th Crusades while Venice and Byzantium were the big powers. The Black Death was 20 years after Genghis Kahn.
At one point you mention something about "The first time horses were domesticated.' That had happened a lot earlier. One major innovation that hasn't been mentioned yet was the metal stirrup.
Oh, also. I think the biggest historical event in Genghis Khan's reign was the Magna Carta, ~`1215
It was not childish it was about the symbolic meaning, you have to remember the past was fricin insane if he let that go on he would probably have been ousted when the going got tuff or treated like dirt. We sleep soundly without fear only because we live in a time and a country where all citizans are provided that luxury, back then(especcily on the steppe) everywhere was the poor nabourhood or the warzone. The lowest of the developed world live lives the most powerful monarchs if any time before 1850ish would have killed for
the sourcing is probably the writings of those Genghis Khan dictated his personal history to, like many other tribal cultures the mongols placed great store on one's personal history of 'legend' and Genghis was famous for importing writers and chroniclers to immortalize him.
Concerning Bullying with Siblings:
A childhood friend of mine had a older brother who was bullying him day on day. Stealing from him, punching him and the parents did not realy do anything about ist ("Boys be boys")
One day my friend was so fed up with his older brother after he flipped his icecream cone out of his hand that he pushed him to the ground and smashed his head with a rock several times.
The brother survived eventually and made it through therapy and regained most of his mental and physical health.
But he never touched my friend again.
I guess some times, as a bully you dont realize what you are doing mentaly to your victim...especially children.
So... we dont know how hard Temujin was actually bullied...
Many traditional Hungarian weddings still feature wife stealing. At one part of the night the wife gets "kidnapped" and the husband has to find her to prove that he deserves her. Nowadays it's all fun and games of course, and just one part of the wedding games.
I'm not 100% sure if this comes from our steppe nomad period but it sounds likely.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCX7katl3DVmch4D7LSvqbVQ/about This individual who goes by Montemayor does incredible recounts and summations that revolve around historic battles and strategy analysis. If you could take the time to review his 1st out of 2 entries on The Battle of Midway; it'd be interesting to see you reciprocate and account for his hard work!
Actually, bride service as it is usually called, is a pretty common arrangement in countless tribal societies worldwide. It often seems to depend on whether the norm in a tribe is for the wife moves into the husband's household (patrilocality) or the husband moves into the wife's household (matrilocality) in a given culture. In the latter arrangement, the husband may have to work for the wife's parents for a time after marriage.
It should also be mentioned that while real bride abductions do occur in many tribal societies (including in some former Soviet countries in central Asia to this day), many other societies practice a sort of arranged bride abduction: the bride escapes the possibility of an arranged marriage in favor of a romantic one by staging her own abduction. That might explain the instant love connection in this case. In some societies, this actually winds up being formalized in wedding arrangements and the groom stages a mock abduction with the consent of the bride's family: carrying the bride across the threshold may be a vestige of such mock abductions.